Simo Häyhä the Greatest Sniper

Credited with as many as 700 kills during the Finnish Winter War

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Simo Häyhä -White Death - public domain
Simo Häyhä -White Death - public domain
Using a bolt action rifle with iron sights this hardy little outdoorsman killed over five hundred Soviet invaders single handedly during the Winter War of 1939-1940.

Simo Häyhä (190? - 2002) of Finland is regarded by many as the most effective sniper in the history of warfare. He was nicknamed "Belaya Smert" (White Death) by the Soviet troops he stalked in the forests of Finland during the four month long Winter War between those two countries in 1939-1940. Using a relatively primitive Russian made Mosin-Nagant Model 28 rifle with no scope, Häyhä sniped no less than 542 Soviet Union soldiers.

He was born in the small town of Rautjärvi in 1905 or 1906 (records conflict). In 1925 he joined the Finnish army for one year of mandatory service and left as a corporal with a bicycle unit. He joined the Civil Guard (much like the US National Guard) and drilled with his reserve unit until war broke out. On November 30, 1939 the Soviet Union, with a population of 171 million invaded tiny Finland whose population was only three million over territorial issues. This war brought Häyhä, now approaching middle age, to active service for the first time as a sniper assigned to Jaeger Regiment 34 along the Kolla River. Along some parts of this battlefront the Soviet Army outnumbered the defenders in ratios as high as 100:1.

Working in temperatures that almost never came above zero degrees and dressed completely in a white camouflage suit, the five foot tall Häyhä declined the use of a scoped Swedish Mauser rifle for the smaller Mosin carbine with iron sights. The Soviet leadership placed a price on his head and tried several ways to specifically get rid of him. Teams of Soviet snipers aided by artillery were deployed with the sole purpose of eliminating the tiny Finnish 'cuckoo'. Finnish snipers were called cuckoos by Russians, because they thought that all Finnish snipers were located in trees (and all trees contained snipers!). He was promoted to lieutenant personally by the Finnish commander Baron Field Marshal Mannerhiem. His 'confirmed kills' were listed at 542 with another two hundred unconfirmed. Most of his shots were taken while acting alone, shooting from a sitting position at ranges at or over 400 meters. Like most snipers he preferred to shoot officers and weapons crews.

On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the jaw while on the frontline and went into a coma. When he came out of his coma in the hospital nine days later Finland had lost the war. The town he was born in, Rautjärvi was lost to the Soviets in the peace settlement and remains part of that country (now Russia) to this day.

When interviewed by a group of American Mosin-Nagant collectors just before his death of old age in 2002 he was asked what his secret was to being such a good sniper he answered, "Practice."

Controversy

Two World War Two snipers on the Eastern Front, Mikhail Ilyich Surkov, a sergeant-major with the Soviet 4th Division, and SS Major (Sturmbannfuhrer) Erwin Konig of the Nazi Army were credited sometimes with having more confirmed kills than Hayha. Surlov was even mentioned in some sources as having over 700. Post war analysis has shown that these figures were inflated for propaganda purposes. It is doubtful that Konig even existed at all and Surkov is a shadowy figure at best. The top scoring Soviet ace that is accepted is Ivan Mihailovich Sidorenko of the 1122nd rifle regiment with 500 confirmed 'kills'.

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Sep 29, 2008 12:31 AM
Guest :
how about vasily zaytzev achievment in sniping is it not true???
Oct 11, 2008 7:09 AM
Guest :
true
Nov 4, 2008 2:52 AM
Guest :
Surkov was noted for his great accuracy during the fighting at Red Liman and Captain Kamkina gave Surkov a snipers rifle.At the end of the war Surkov was credited with 702 confirmed kills.Surkov was awarded the Order of Lenin and Hero of the Soviet union and numerous other medals.After the war Surkov graduated at Achinsky Mechanics technology industry and later went to work in Komsomolsk as a electrician.

Major Koning was identified by documents that Vassili Zaitsev and his partner Nikolay Kulikov took off Konings body,Konings scope can be seen today at the Moscow Armed Forces museum.
Nov 12, 2008 7:10 PM
Guest :
Zaitsev's achievement in sniping is true. He gained his fame fighting the Germans in Stalingrad. However, Zaitsev never fought the supposed German super-sniper Konings during the battle of Stalingrad. That was pure Russian propaganda. However, Zaitsev did duel against several skilled German snipers during the battle, from which the great sniper duel myth was taken from.
Dec 2, 2008 4:31 PM
Guest :
simo had 742+ kills total
rifle:542
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submachine gun: 200+
= 742+ kills
Dec 6, 2008 11:45 AM
Guest :
At 70's I was a next door neighbour of Simo Häyhä at Ruokolahti Finland. Together with Simo we looked the photographs from in-hospital stay after an injury by Russian bullet. Simo told me that the Russian sniper regognized him, targed and got him. And he was injured. Simo told that he was moving a little bit and the Russians got him. Simo was quiet and modest man in a little village making no noise.
Vesa Aholaakko
Dec 6, 2008 11:46 AM
Guest :
At 70's I was a next door neighbour of Simo Häyhä at Ruokolahti Finland. Together with Simo we looked the photographs from in-hospital stay after an injury by Russian bullet. Simo told me that the Russian sniper regognized him, targed and got him. And he was injured. Simo told that he was moving a little bit and the Russians got him. Simo was quiet and modest man in a little village making no noise.

Vesa Aholaakko
Dec 11, 2008 1:58 AM
Guest :
Let this be a lesson to any would-be agressor who would set foot on Finnish soil. Long may the spirit and presence of Simo Hayha watch over Finland.
Jan 31, 2009 1:01 PM
Guest :
What a Finn! I want to hug this man. He represents the best from this wonderful nation whose stance against the Soviets is second to none in military history. I have as little pleasure in seeing dead Russians as I have in seeing dead Germans, but God bless you Haya!
Feb 5, 2009 7:22 AM
Guest :
Now Finland is being conquered without a shot being fired.
You have let so many Muslims immigrate to Finland that you soon will be a minority in your own country.
After the Muslims are the majority they will impose their laws upon you.
The proud people of Finland, yet another victim of liberalism. RIP
Feb 18, 2009 12:10 PM
Guest :
Vasily Zaitsev was fighting in the bloodiest battle in human history, while Hayha was in a Russian shooting gallery, where almost any given Finnish soldier could probably kill 100+ Russians easy. This battle was sych a failiure for Russia that Stalin redesigned the entire army, just in time for WW2. Also, before the Winter War, Russia lost over half of it's officers in a massive purge. Almost no experienced commanders commanded the Soviets during the attack.
Mar 3, 2009 12:28 PM
Guest :
Simo Hayha did a brilliant job defending his homeland from overwhelming enemy forces. His achievements were never exploited as a propaganda tool but neverthless, they shouldn't be underrated. Glory for the brave fighter and RIP.
Mar 3, 2009 4:42 PM
Guest :
look guys sure stalingrad was bad but really come on stalingrad was sniper heaven. so many buildings etc. greater risk of dieing sure.
but the russians outnumbered them greater and he had a semi auto gun against them not fully so quit trying to say vasily is better.
Kurning and Surlov as said are very shadowy so really they most likely knowing russia and germany at the time were propaganda attemps especially the surlov. They would need stuff like that to raise spirit and morale.
So really Simo is the greatest sniper in history that you can prove and have good evidence. There isnt much to prove the others. that scope could have been any german sniper and the documents of kurning i will look up some time.
Mar 5, 2009 6:02 PM
Guest :
Simo was the greatest sniper of all times, he didn't even used a scope, and his range of difficulty at targeting and shooting someone else is much higher than Vasily or any other sniper, and that's something you guys must recognized. Greetings from Ecuador !!!
Mar 30, 2009 6:14 AM
Guest :
I honestly doubt Hayhas kill count,Hayha mmore than likely was used as propaganda. Surkovs kill count however is credible and makes more sense as he made his kills in 5 years not only 90 days like Hayha "supposibly" did.

Regarding the duel between Zaitsev and Koenig--Imm probably the formost expert on this and my research shows the duel did happen and Koenig was real.

Apr 11, 2009 12:06 PM
Guest :
anyone who doupts simo can go to hell HE IS THE BEST EVER PERIOD!
May 17, 2009 7:43 PM
Guest :
Yes, Simo was and still is the greatest sniper. Finn's are known for their honesty and integrity...not blowing things out of proportion. If his kills where confirmed by the Finnish Defense Forces you can bet your life on it to be true. The USSR put out nothing but lies and propaganda. Please understand I am talking about the government (Stalin's dictatorship) and not specifically the people of Russia. Anybody that believes anything that was put out by the USSR is an idiot.
Thank GOD for men like Simo Hayha!
Jun 29, 2009 10:43 PM
Guest :
simo best ever? hardley
you guys clearly havent herd of the great australian sniper billy sing
the greatest sniper of all time
Aug 11, 2009 3:53 PM
Guest :
Simo Hayha did this in 100 days. Every other sniper that even comes close fought for YEARS. His record was on Christmas when the soviets were celebrating, 25 confirmed kills... in one day. In the finnish winter there was about 6-7 hours of daylight. figure in 650-700 HOURS he killed close to 800 men. He is the best period, anyone who says different doesn't seem to know math or facts.
Aug 19, 2009 12:37 PM
Guest :
Vasily Zaytsev was a better sniper, and he really did sniped Major Konig. He also sniped 9 other German Snipers.
Aug 23, 2009 7:20 PM
Guest :
The russians told everyone Finland had started the Winter War by attacking them! Obviously all numbers coming from the russians should be taken with a grain of salt, as they would pretty much say anything to make their communist system look better than what it actually was.
Sep 5, 2009 10:27 AM
Guest :
screw that, he didnt kill jack sht with a damned smg dude, thats not possible, u guys seem to think hes masterchief, hes not the best sniper in the world, not even close, any one of our scout snipers today, anyone of them would outsnipe this fin. he was just good enough that people could exagerate him and raise the moral of the men by saying "hey, this guy killed 200, no 400, no 545 people!" "a-and yes, tahts rite, he also killed an additionally, notibally unconfirmed and therefore unproven and therefor nonexistant 200 people with an smg". one thing u civilians have to realise is taht if its unconfirmed, it doesnt exist. train urself to think that way.
Oct 29, 2009 6:23 AM
Guest :
Lads... Keep it in your pants.
As a military sniper (more correctly, designated marksman), and half Finn, I have big respect for Simo.
Finns are well known for honesty, integrity and modesty. WHy would they BOTHER try blow a legend man out of proportion for propeganda while the known truth is amazing.

AS for the guy saying our scout snipers can do better... Thats due to technology. NOT skill. I guess your American. Only american is that arrogant. Most snipers I have met cant hit a fucking thing over 100m without their scope. I, however, train with Iron Sights more than scope as relying on scope is stupidity.

With the Moisin, its possible, with open sights, to hit a coffee can at 600m consistently. Therefore SAimo's exploits are more than possible, and he was certainly a better shooter than I, as I am only fairly good at best.

A SMG can easily kil ~200 people. Just give the wielder an abundance of targets

Stop doubting the man. Let him rest in peace.

Godspeed to heaven Simo.
Oct 29, 2009 6:25 AM
Guest :
Unconfirmed merely means, in the military, that he did not run over to corpse and take its tags or ID.
Oct 29, 2009 9:16 AM
Guest :
Unconfirmed merely means, in the military, that he did not run over to corpse and take its tags or ID.
Nov 25, 2009 10:04 AM
Guest :
I visited his grave where in the church at Ruokolahti in this Oct.
R.I.P Simo Häyhä
Dec 20, 2009 11:30 AM
Guest :
This man is the stuff of legend. Not many of us could do what he did reportedly 700 plus times. I certainly would not be able to sleep. He did. No longer will I look at people of comparatively diminutive height and think they are physically less than me at over six feet tall and over 210 pounds. He's quite a man. And he lived a long time. Maybe cold weather isn't so bad for a person.
Jan 30, 2010 10:46 PM
Guest :
According to official Finnish Army documents at the Finnish National Archive's Simo had achieved 199 kills from beginning of the war until 26 January 1940 and twenty more from that day to 16 February 1940, that's 219 total.
In his diary from the War A. J. Rantamaa claims Hayha had 259 kills on the day he was wounded,However they say he had around same amount of kills with SMG and LMG, that is about 500 kills total in his service.

Sorry to tell you guy's but I think alot of his kills are faulse for military propaganda
Jan 30, 2010 10:47 PM
Guest :
According to official Finnish Army documents at the Finnish National Archive's Simo had achieved 199 kills from beginning of the war until 26 January 1940 and twenty more from that day to 16 February 1940, that's 219 total.
In his diary from the War A. J. Rantamaa claims Hayha had 259 kills on the day he was wounded,However they say he had around same amount of kills with SMG and LMG, that is about 500 kills total in his service.

Sorry to tell you guy's but I think alot of his kills are faulse for military propaganda
Feb 25, 2010 2:13 PM
Guest :
This guy was a HOSS. He is definitly the best marksman ever
Feb 28, 2010 8:22 PM
Guest :
You forgot about his K31 SMG. Hayha has 542 "confirmed" kills but the unconfirmed can reach into 800.
Mar 2, 2010 2:05 PM
Guest :
Carlos Hathcock II was the best sniper ever.
Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM
Guest :
@Guest Jan 30, 2010 10:47 PM

And we are supposed to believe you above all and everyone else, ever? Your comments are also the first and only search results that can be found on the entire internet. Yeah, and I think theres a good chance youre from Russia.
Mar 18, 2010 3:49 PM
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@Guest Jan 30, 2010 10:47 PM

And we are supposed to believe you above all and everyone else, ever? Your comments are also the first and only search results that can be found on the entire internet. Yeah, and I think theres a good chance youre from Russia.
Mar 21, 2010 1:02 PM
Guest :
If Simo Hayha were American there would be dozens of movies about him but since he is Finnish the movie count is zero. Hayha just did his job and did it extremely well. Greatest Sniper Ever. Period.
Mar 21, 2010 1:03 PM
Guest :
If Simo Hayha were American there would be dozens of movies about him but since he is Finnish the movie count is zero. Hayha just did his job and did it extremely well. Greatest Sniper Ever. Period.
Mar 22, 2010 10:30 AM
Guest :
simo was the greatest sniper who ever lived in my book and i want to be just like him and my name pop up as the greatest sniper in the world NATE THE GREAT
Mar 23, 2010 2:30 PM
Guest :
This man was clearly a pro.
Mar 28, 2010 3:05 PM
Guest :
Look at this newspaper article original 1940 - 216 kills just as Finnish records state! 542 is propaganda

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36919288@N08/4471450664/
Apr 9, 2010 12:20 AM
Guest :
either way 200+ jesus christ hes a pro even with 1 kill you know what that takes he killed at least 200+ more than the average soldier AND I think he has 800+ some bite that im from niether im german french polish irish American scottish native american too.
Apr 27, 2010 1:48 AM
Guest :
To Mar 28, 2010 3:05 PM
Care to explain the modern English in this supposed authentic WW2 article?
Apr 27, 2010 1:51 AM
Guest :
To: Guest Mar 28, 2010 3:05 PM

Care to explain the modern English in the supposed authentic WW2 article?
Apr 29, 2010 2:27 PM
Guest :
You bet that article is real! It can be seen in "Palm Beach Daily News - Mar 6, 1940" Are you not aware that the U.S. wrote a lot about Finnish soldier's feats during the war? That article was published in many more American news papers as well as in Finnish newspapers from the war - thats where this article comes from-Finnish sources. Helsinki was the 1st publisher of this article. And to prove my claim he is the original paper provided by "Google news archives" http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=UmwtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=gYsFAAAAIBAJ& ;pg=4930,2084651&dq=simo+haeyhae&hl=en
May 6, 2010 6:10 PM
Guest :
Considering those conditions and what he had to use he done a well done job.
May 10, 2010 6:08 PM
Guest :
soooo gooooooooood
May 12, 2010 9:03 PM
Guest :
I believe the man who starts his peace ..keep it in your pants lads knows more then the rest off the people having this debate and the points he makes are second to none .The bloke that says any of are modern snipers would be better all i can say to you is lol (at you) also weather it be 200 hundred or 800 he stood up for his country and did not run away or hide as many off you that disbelieve him prob would .RIP SIMO LEGEND
May 15, 2010 6:37 AM
Guest :
zaytzev is a hero in stalingrad
Jun 4, 2010 6:20 AM
Guest :
This isn't propaganda. We fought for our country and did it damn well. We're a small nation that fought against an enormous enemy and remained independent. From my opinion, that's an unique event in war history of the world. Looking at this I see no reason to doubt this individual's achievements. Simo Häyhä is a good example of what our men were like during that time, not all as talented, but persistent at defending their homeland.
Jun 4, 2010 11:33 AM
Guest :
This isn't propaganda. We fought for our country and did it damn well. We're a small nation that fought against an enormous enemy and remained independent. From my opinion, that's an unique event in war history of the world. Looking at this I see no reason to doubt this individual's achievements. Simo Häyhä is a good example of what our men were like during that time, not all as talented, but persistent at defending their homeland.
Jul 29, 2010 2:42 PM
Guest :
If you read books about winterwar and kollaa front, you will realise that, it is a privilege to be sniper in that kind of situation. But and only if you know what you are doing. Sniper as in any war, is pain in the ass. Invisible, silent and deadly. Simo was a bear and fox hunter before winterwar started. If you know anything about hunting bears and foxes, you know what it would be a sniper in kollaa. Mass russian attacks, waves of humans assaulting against machineguns,rifles and mortars (casualties for russians were somedays 2000 men per a day at kollaa alone). Boldly russians attacked without winter clothing or camoflage. Easy targets for anybody, right. But finnish defenders had no reserves on kollaa(it was part of tactical strategy by Mannerheim) , so men had to stay awake at nights and days for a weeks(350 000 finnish men,32 tanks,114 airplanes and artillirie with only in emergency used ammo against 1 000 000 russian soldiers,3000 tanks,3800 airplanes and artillery with endles ammo ) "Easy" is not the word, The word is "skill". That is the only reason why Simo became "The white death" among russian soldiers.
Aug 21, 2010 6:39 PM
Guest :
So how many modern snipers will survive for a few months in -20-40C temperatures and heavy snow? Just asking...
Oct 2, 2010 7:10 AM
Guest :
vasily zaytzev was used as a tool to get russian troops spirits up. alot of his kills were not true. his officer told vasily "if you kill two we'll say you killed 4 or six". this was vasily's own words.
Dec 7, 2010 10:58 PM
Guest :
Last poster is lying through his teeth,typical Finn (Rolls eyes) Zaitsev NEVER uttered those words,Zaitsev killed over 300 Nazis in Stalingrad and over 500 by wars end,Hayha killed 216. Oh and to the author - There's no such rifle as a "Mosin Nagant" Its the "Three Line Rifle of 1891!"
Mar 12, 2011 1:32 AM
Guest :
Simo Häyhä killed over 800 soviet russian bastard motherfucker
Mar 12, 2011 1:44 AM
Guest :
Does anyone know who the confirmed kills were? By this, I mean I know of many snipers and assasings that will not kill women or children and will only kill males. Personally, I would rather have this than to have women or girls killed after all, males are more expendable than women and males are not the superior sex like a lot of people think.

I think it is time for everyone to realize that male superiority has been a con job from the start. In reality, males and women are no where near equal as women are greatly superior to the male. It is about time males realize this too.

"The Natural Superiority of Women" is a good book that shows solid evidence that women are the superior gender. It starts by showing that every human starts out female but it goes on to say that at one certain stage of development something "goes horribly wrong" and some of us (myself included) end up to be male. In short, we males are a mutation of a female. (Seldom is a mutation good)

One comment stated that the last update of this book was in 1999 and since than a lot more has been learned.

Recently there have been several news items regarding this. Some say males will disappear totally. Others say we will still be around but not really needed. Before machines were invented, males were needed for their muscles for physical work. Now that machines can do all of that, males are not needed as much as we once were.

Now there is a book that can fill in that 21 year gap.

"Man Down" by Dan Abrams

Proof Beyond a Reasonable Doubt That Women Are Better Cops, Drivers, Gamblers, Spies, World Leaders, Beer Tasters, Hedge Fund Managers, and Just About Everything Else

Someone said that now that women are getting an equal chance, women are surpassing males in almost every area. This is what Abrams said is the reason for this book.

"There’s a lot more evidence now. A lot of the studies from the book are from the last three years. It’s only been in the last twenty or so years, that women have been on a relatively even playing field in terms of work to do many of these studies. We weren’t able to make fair comparisons before, because women were a fraction of the working world. Now we’re see women taking over the majority in many professions. But only recently has there been enough time to look back to compare men versus women and only recently has there been real interest."

Abrams said a vast majority of lead researchers are male, but the broad trend trackers are women. so it may be that males are beginning to wake up and smell the roses that male superiority is history. Actually, males never were superior as women have always been superior to males.

Women have a better sense of smell, taste, and new research is suggesting the fact that women tend to endure pain more makes them more immune to it. It’s the old aphorism, “That which doesn’t kill me makes me stronger.” Women survive injury better than males do and 77% of those who die in traffic accidents are male. Women have 34 more nerve fibers per square centimeter of facial skin, while men have an average of 17. This brings up sexual pleasure. Women have hundreds of times more nerve endings in their vagina than males have in their penis and as a result a male's orgasm pales to a woman's. A woman feels it in all of her body for several moments and it can be repeated many times in a short time. A male's orgasm consists of a few throbs of his penis and it is over in usually much less than a minute. He usually cannot have another one for several hours. Someone said that it is like Niagara Falls for women, a dripping faucet (no pun intended) for males.

Women live an average of five years longer than men. The reasons for this are both genetic and behavior-based. First of all, women have stronger immune systems, again due to estrogen which aids the fight against disease-inducing enzymes. But women are also less likely to engage in risky behavior. Almost all of the Darwin Award winners are male. Usually 9 or more males kill themselves for each woman who does to get this award.

Women make better doctors. While forty percent of doctors are women, 80 percent of those under investigation for medical misconduct or incompetence are male. In the U.S., there were similar findings. Male physicians were twice as likely to be sued as women


He does list things males are better at: Males are better at parking, they’re better dieters, they have better distance vision, and they read maps better. Males do have larger muscles, so they tend to be better at some sports but women far excel males in endurance sports.

A woman's body can more efficiently process oxygen. When it comes to ultra-marathons—say, a 135 mile race without sleep—women can beat men. Remember the first male that ran a marathon died and when we read about someone dying while playing sports or running a race, it is far more likely it will be a male.

When looking at sex change operations, we will notice that a few hundred males want to become women for every woman who wants to become a male. Still these males would not become members of the superior gender as their DNA would still be male thus keeping them inferior to women.

Even in combat, women are better sharp shooters and if the battle of the sexes every turned into a real war, we males would not have a chance. All the males would all be dead while 3/4 or more women remained alive and unharmed.

It is a given that males need women far more than women need males but lets count our lucky stars that most women still want us around.

With Montagu's book, I use to think women had a 80 out of 100 advantage over us males. With his last update in 1999 I raised that to 85 to 100. Now with this new book, it looks like women have a 95 to 100 advantage over males and if it keeps up since women have grown so much in the last 20 to 30 years, soon they will have total advantage over anyone that has the misfortune of being born with testicles although I am one of those that did have this misfortue as I too have testicles but still from what I see around me, I too am glad women are the SUPERIOR gender and MALES are the inferior one.
Mar 14, 2011 4:31 AM
Guest :
Mikhail Illich Surkov - the famous Soviet sniper with 702 confirmed kill's with the overall number being well over 1200
Mar 14, 2011 4:34 AM
Guest :
Mikhail Illich Surkov - the famous Soviet sniper with 702 confirmed kill's with the overall number being well over 1200
Mar 14, 2011 4:35 AM
Guest :
Mikhail Illich Surkov - the famous Soviet sniper with 702 confirmed kill's with the overall number being well over 1200
Mar 15, 2011 12:58 PM
Guest :
702 confirmed kill's I hope all 702 of them were males. Women and girls should not be killed in wars.
Mar 16, 2011 7:08 AM
Guest :
I am not sure if the person that wrote this is a man or a woman: "702 confirmed kill's I hope all 702 of them were males. Women and girls should not be killed in wars. "

But I am a man and I have to agree with this. I would even rather there be twice as many who were killed as long as they were all males and did not include even one woman

In the Civil War, 660 thousand males were killed and only 60 women but I would rather have had no women killed even if it was 670 thousand males..
Apr 5, 2011 11:32 PM
Guest :
"Man Down" and the "The Natural Superiority of Women" sound as if they are a must read for every man and woman. (Maybe they should be taught in every high school)

As a woman, I do appreciate having men admit that we (women) are superior to men. I notice that the men who say this have referred to women as women and to men as males. Is this to stress that women are superior to "males" Is it intentional?

I do remember an old game in the mall called "Dear Hunter" that my brother loved to play. It was a hunting game with instructions that they were to shoot only the males and if they shot a doe or a fawn they would lose points. Someone said it was interesting that the game did not say to shot only bucks which are males of course, but it said to shoot males. Sort of like that in real life, it is not as bad to shoot males as it is to shoot women.

I bring this out to mention that I know many who think that only males should be killed in wars. I heard that there were a lot of protest when one of the Mid East countries shot into a group of women who were protesting but that no one protested when Yemen had sharp shooters on rooftops and were ordered to aim at and to kill only males.

While I like the idea of not shooting women, I do wonder how males feel that many think it is OK to shoot only males in wartime. I sort of wonder what other women think about it too. I know it makes me very glad to be a woman but that is not the only reason. Many have been listed in these comments and I am going to have to read "Man Down" and maybe that other book, the "The Natural Superiority of Women". I do tend to agree with them but it would be nice to have the reasons why women are superior so the next time I talk to a male who insist males are superior, I will be able to tell him why they are not.

My brother said a cock stands at attention in the company of a superior woman as if it is saluting her much as one in the army salutes a superior officer but my brother said there is more to it than that, that after his member salutes a woman, it goes limp in submission to her thus again showing she is superior to him. (Umm now that I think of it, it sounds like my brother believes women are superior to men too as he said it is natures way to have almost every male to admit that women are his superior.) He also said mother nature but a male's balls where they are to enable women to use them to control or disable a male easily. (He never uses slang terms for women but does not mind anyone using terms for a penis and testicles such as cocks, dicks or pricks and nuts and balls. He said if we notice they are often common terms in public much more than any slang terms for women except possibly boobs or tits for breast but don't tell him I used those words or he would get after me)

That comment that orgasms were like "Niagara Falls for women, a dripping faucet (no pun intended) for males had me laughing. I guess the next time when I come down from cloud nine, I will have to tell my partner that "his faucet is dripping"
Apr 26, 2011 3:29 AM
Guest :
nice sniper
Apr 26, 2011 3:30 AM
Guest :
nice sniper
May 2, 2011 5:21 AM
Guest :
My husband and I only want daughters because the male gender is the main reason for wars so why have more males to feed the war machine. If 80% of the population only had daughters, wars would stop because the males would be needed at home. He also said being male is a disease.

The male gender is a major determinant is a major determinate of public health in the U.S. and Europe and worldwide. Males are at an age adjusted greater risk of premature death than women for causes that should affect men and women equally, although poorly understood biologic differences exist

In reality, the biological differences should be clear, being male is a disease and I think a good part of it rests in their testicles. It is odd how males brag about having balls and the bigger the balls the better yet their own balls often help lead to their early death. I think someone would be nuts to want a pair of nuts between their legs.

Nothing shows that women are superior than war does. George Carlin said:

I look at war a little bit differently. To me, war is a lot of prick-waving! OK? Simple thing. That's all it is. War is a whole lot of men standing out on a field, waving their pricks at one another. Men are insecure about the size of their dicks, and so they have to kill one another over the idea. That's what all that asshole jock bullshit is all about. That's what all that adolescent, macho male posturing, and strutting in bars and locker rooms is all about. It's called "dick fear!" Men are terrified that their pricks are inadequate and so they have to compete with one another, to feel better about them, and since war is the ultimate competition, basically, men are killing each other in order to improve their self-esteem! You don't have to be a historian or a political scientist to see the bigger-dick foreign policy theory at work. It sounds like this: "What, they have bigger dicks? Bomb them!" And of course, the bombs and the rockets and the bullets are all shaped like dicks. It's a subconscious need to project the penis into other people's affairs. It's called "fucking with people!"

So war is really about a lot of pricks shooting other people simply because they too have a prick. Oh but they have to have balls too because you cannot blow the balls of someone who does not have them. I will agree with one thing, if we have wars, only those with a prick and a pair of balls should be placed in harm's way. I would have no objection to letting women blow a male's balls off or even cut them off but keep her safe and let her cut the balls of rapist or terrorist. A male dying to save women has been long practiced. I read about a military unit where ten thousand males surrounded to an enemy that would soon defeat them knowing every male would be killed but the women and girls would be saved. Even though there were about 1,000 women, ten thousand males sacrificed their life because they knew they were be defeated and everyone would be killed so they made a deal that the women would be spared. I guess they knew one woman was worth ten males even if they could not admit women were superior, their actions proved they knew they were
May 28, 2011 12:06 PM
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Very interesting as had not heard these bits of history before.
Jul 31, 2011 1:34 AM
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The February 2000 edition of the American Psychiatric Association had a very interesting article regarding Montagu's The Natural Superiority of Women which at much as I hate to admit it, confirmes what many have said here, women are the superior gender.


"the fifth edition, Montagu (1999) says that since the fourth edition of the book appeared in 1992, "much new information bearing on the natural superiority of women has become available" and that "the new findings unexceptionally support and confirm the conclusions reached in this book." He says that he tried to leave the book essentially as it was written, but has brought it up to date with the latest findings and has also added new material.

Over the centuries, male scholars have pointed to the larger male brain, skeleton, height, and muscle mass as clear evidence of the male's superiority, as in the view "might makes right." However, in a paradigm shift that seeks to include the overall performance of the anatomy and physiology of male and female, Montagu believes women come out on top. Women apparently have a more powerful immunological system, which affords them greater protection against and better recovery from starvation, fatigue, shock, and illness. Also, although a woman's brain may be smaller than a man's, it has more neurons in the corpus callosum, which enables better coordination between hemispheres. Consequently, the female brain is more highly developed structurally and functionally, and it is capable of thinking more soundly and intuitively than the male brain, Montagu says. The end result is that women are more insightful and have greater stamina and longevity—or, in other words, women stand the test of time.

In spite of the book's provocative title, Montagu insists it is not his intention to inflate the status of one sex over the other, but rather to bring the sexes closer together. Montagu believes that if we are to achieve social equality, men must be convinced that women are superior. His desire is for a reconstructed American culture in which the male values of physical dominance, acquisition of material goods, and aggression give way to humane attributes and abilities. Women, being the truly superior beings they are, will of course not brag about their biological superiority over men, but will treat them kindly and gently"

Much more has been learned since 1999, the last update of this book and sad for us males to say, even more ways women are superior have been discovered.but maybe he is right when he said "men must be convinced that women are superior"

I am ready to throw in the towel and admit that women are superior and that males are inferior to women. Any other males out there have the balls to admit it too?
Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM
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HE'S A BEAST!!
Sep 16, 2011 3:01 AM
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Hayha - the best? It's not even funny. Not to mention the fact that his "achievements" - no more than propaganda. 216 killed in March 6, and 300 - by the end of the war - that his performance.

These champions.

M.I. Surkov - 702 killed
F.I. Okhlopkov -429 killed (according to various estimates - 1000)
I.M. Sidorenko ~ 500 killed.
V.S. Kvachantiradze-542 kills.
N.Y. Ilyin -494 k
I.N. Kulbertinov -487 k

They fought the entire war, not 105 days. And their achievements are real.

But Hayha ... Find out where and how he fought, and find the documents of the Soviet units in those areas of the front of their losses, in particular from snipers (even though he was not the only one.) Compare. It is not difficult, really.

But of course, you prefer to believe in the stupid Russian hordes disorganized going to a handful of civilized and well-aimed Finns, and millions dying from their bullets. Reality, even the one failing to Soviet war, was a little different. But you do not care, right?

http://www.wio.ru/galgrnd/sniper/sniper.htm
Sep 16, 2011 8:03 AM
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equal rights equal fights
Sep 16, 2011 8:03 AM
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equal rights equal fights
Sep 16, 2011 8:03 AM
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equal rights equal fights
Sep 30, 2011 6:34 AM
Guest :
I enjoy this article but what i don't understand is why people are ripping on Simo? You claim that his kills are just military propaganda, but Finland had no need for that. Finland was already slaughtering the Russians in the thousands. Russia deserved what they got in losing so many because of their selfish wants and unnessisary war. Russia knew that the only real advantage that they had was shear number and so they new that they could afford to throw people right in front of machine guns. Simo took advantage of that and that is why he got so many kills. Moral of the story? Russians are dumb, Simo is the best, and you probley disagree.
Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM
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Why everybody is counting how many kills they made? I think it's pointless to debate. It's like "my car is faster than yours". Honor to all.
Dec 1, 2011 3:38 AM
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Disregard any numbers from the soviet propaganda machine, that whole empire was based on lies. The real truth is, nobody knows how many those russian snipers actually killed, or did some of them even exist.
Mar 15, 2012 2:38 PM
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quit bening hatful the man did his job to fight for his country!!! and thts tht.
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